This is a Pilot study Maxillary incisor retraction and associated upper lip response were studied in 20 people postadolescent orthodontic patients to determine if a statistically significant correlation and ratio existed between maxillary incisor and lip retraction .Dependent factors include lip thickness, length, strain of upper lip. Although a ratio 0.37 was determined by this study for predictive purpose, this value was not absolute for each individual. Furthermore, if we can collect more sample data, and subgroup them according to the effecting factors than determine a new ratio for each subgroup. Maybe the prediction result n the future would be more precise.